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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #160 on: January 03, 2019, 06:41:51 PM »
I shouldn't. She's doing fantastically well. She only passed in December and riding well. We've just come back from 2 days around Wales and Anglesey in pretty cold weather.  But yesterday she dropped it whilst pushing it on the forecourt and today she pulled up along side me and got off. I sat my bike up off the stand and she'd leant hers against my panniers on a down slope at the garage in Betws-y-Coed.  Good job I fitted those Heed upper bars. But it now needs a new indicator. Hey, who hasn't dropped their bike? But at the moment she does seem to be going for some sort of record. But in truth, it does seem to sit very vertically on the side stand.

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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #161 on: January 03, 2019, 06:45:17 PM »
*Originally Posted by Stillwobbling [+]
I shouldn't. She's doing fantastically well. She only passed in December and riding well. We've just come back from 2 days around Wales and Anglesey in pretty cold weather.  But yesterday she dropped it whilst pushing it on the forecourt and today she pulled up along side me and got off. I sat my bike up off the stand and she'd leant hers against my panniers on a down slope at the garage in Betws-y-Coed.  Good job I fitted those Heed upper bars. But it now needs a new indicator. Hey, who hasn't dropped their bike? But at the moment she does seem to be going for some sort of record. But in truth, it does seem to sit very vertically on the side stand.

Kudos to her, seriously. You should be proud! And she rides in the cold? That's a trooper! Good job man, congrats on finding her and keeping her  :821:

Upper crash bars saved my sad @$$ many, many times too :008:

Interesting that you say that the bike is standing too vertical on side stand. It shouldn't be that vertical to the point that you cannot lean even a bit. Did you folks lower the bike or something?
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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #162 on: January 03, 2019, 08:23:41 PM »
*Originally Posted by Stillwobbling [+]
But in truth, it does seem to sit very vertically on the side stand.

*Originally Posted by Stillwobbling [+]


I just checked your intro post with her red bike showing... that tiger is really, really upright. I'm sure that's helping when she is straightening the bike when she gets on, but that's too vertical man. On an uneven surface that thing will tip over to the other side a bit too easily... something's off. I'd recommend getting a bit more lean for safety. I mean, I've been in windy situations with enough gust to tip that bike where it's parked had it been there...
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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #163 on: January 03, 2019, 10:26:09 PM »
I hear you. I am pretty sure it's not been lowered. It's not an XRT Low that's for sure. It has a low seat on, but aside from that it looks standard. I'll fetch the hacksaw ...

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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #164 on: January 04, 2019, 07:26:52 PM »
Check the rear preload is not set to "low". If the rear preload is wound fully off the rear of the bike will sit lower making the sidestand position more upright. Aim for 30-35% SAG when she is sitting on the bike. That is a starting point at least and it might have some bearing on the issue.

Then do this again for when she is sitting on the bike with panniers and luggage on. That will give you two preload settings, one for solo runs and one for solo and loaded panniers etc.

Us 1200 owners with TSAS are spoiled with automatic preload adjustment, it is manual on the 800. You will only have to spend 30-60 mins together in the garage with a tape measure and the settings will stick with you for the life of the bike and make a large difference in the way the bike handles.
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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #165 on: January 04, 2019, 08:44:32 PM »
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]
Check the rear preload is not set to "low". If the rear preload is wound fully off the rear of the bike will sit lower making the sidestand position more upright. Aim for 30-35% SAG when she is sitting on the bike. That is a starting point at least and it might have some bearing on the issue.

Then do this again for when she is sitting on the bike with panniers and luggage on. That will give you two preload settings, one for solo runs and one for solo and loaded panniers etc.

Us 1200 owners with TSAS are spoiled with automatic preload adjustment, it is manual on the 800. You will only have to spend 30-60 mins together in the garage with a tape measure and the settings will stick with you for the life of the bike and make a large difference in the way the bike handles.

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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #166 on: January 04, 2019, 10:22:42 PM »
Thanks. I had the Gen 1 Tex with non TSAS before this one. I get the pre-load set up.

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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #167 on: January 04, 2019, 10:42:57 PM »
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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #168 on: January 21, 2019, 11:57:21 AM »
Funny morning. 5:50 AM. It was 12 F when I booted up the bike - from the startup sequence I could tell somethings were frozen in the engine, but I ran my gen 1 in 9F so I knew the Tiger could handle it.



Bike started running nicely but I couldn't move the muffs - those thermal lined windbreakers over the handguards that I have. Those things did more than 60K miles. Amazing, amazing build quality (storm industries) Anyway, the muffs were frozen solid which made me giggle, and remember that it did rain the day before...



Yeap, water got in (this is the left one, when steering wheel locked it is a bit tilted letting it rain inside... The rain made a puddle, below freezing weather made ice. Had to remove it and bang it on the sidewalk and actually stomp on it a bit to make the ice break... Giggling I put it back in realizing that I am getting frozen fingers already.

By the time I got the heater controller mounted my fingers were frozen so I had to wait a good 5 minutes with the heated gloves on to regain my fingers and put on the freezing helmet...

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And the bike won't move. For a second I was dumbfounded then it hit me, the front brake calipers are frozen as well. But I was too lazy to unplug myself and take a look. Instead I put the bike in neutral and started rocking back and fort. Whomever was watching must have been having a fun time. I think I rocked back and fort a dozen or so times and then I felt the crack and the bike was loose!

Onward and upward... Dash showed 9 F throughout my 20 minute trip, which was longer because I spend more time looking for and avoiding dry ice probable spots on local roads. Then I realized that I had to put the temp up to max on the heater controller. This is the first time that I had to do that. Gloves were maxed out, jacket was maxed out, my palms were burning but my fingertips were feeling the cold. Not freezing, but feeling the cold.

When are they going to realize that people who buy heated gloves have heated grips. Stop putting heating elements on the palms and frickin' surround the fingers and the fingertips dammit. Outside is where we need the heating elements, not inside the d@mn palm.

Anyway, Gen3 like Gen1 has no problem with operating between 14F and 9F (that's -10 C thru -12 C) Just make sure that the calipers are not frozen solid  :008:

Man, I love this bike...

Oh, the helmet is another thing... If you ride in 9F the moisture inside the helmet starts freezing on the visor. I have the fog insert but that still happens. Do they have heated visors yet?
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Re: Icy here... :)
« Reply #169 on: January 21, 2019, 01:16:03 PM »
My own Furygan heated gloves don't heat the palms (I believe this is due to superior French engineering (or lazyness, which could very well be the same thing ;-)).

As for ice in the helmet, I found out that the only way to fight it is to keep the lid completely sealed and breathe through the mouth. This keeps the inside temperature high enough to avoid icing. Tested below -10°C with success. Of course, this doesn't work in the absence of antifog visor (also tested above -10°C ;-).
If all else fails, start singing out loud inside your helmet. This really elevate temperature quickly (but could attract some curious looks from cagers ;-).

 


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