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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2017, 12:53:19 AM »
*Originally Posted by NiK [+]
Question from an uneducated foreigner: what if this election is won by an anti-Brexit party? Could it try to cancel the slamming door procedure?

It could, but currently the Lib Dem platform is expected to be to go for a "soft" Brexit, i.e. attempt to retain access to the Single Market, and probably have a second referendum on whether to accept the result of the negotiation. Rejecting that negotiation would imply an attempt to repudiate the invocation of Article 50, i.e. retract the notice given to the EU that the UK is leaving. I have seen legal opinions that this is entirely possible, but it is mainly a political rather than legal question.

The main imponderable is whether Labour will again turn with the wind to anti-Brexit if the results of the election seem to indicate the electorate favours that. At the referendum, there was only 52% support for Brexit, so it is hardly a solid majority.

The interesting question is why May is going for a general election. We do know that roughly 30  Tory MPs were about to be charged with offences relating to election expenses, which could mean up to 30 by-elections. My own theory is that it relates to May's lack of a mandate. We don't elect the Prime Minister, but we usually know who will be in power following an election if a party wins an election. May was not even elected by the Parliamentary Conservative Party, but was simply the last candidate standing due to her last rival withdrawing from the leadership contest. This could leave her vulnerable to an internal coup in the PCP as happened with Thatcher. Winning an election would forestall that.

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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2017, 07:24:23 AM »
*Originally Posted by Phil [+]
As far as I'm aware, no-one in a position of trust, power and responsibility in N Ireland, Wales, Yorkshire (God's County) Devon, Cornwall or anywhere else is forever banging the drum about how much better off they would be by turning their backs on Europe's second, and the World's fourth healthiest economy. Maybe I've missed something.

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But as the vote to stay proved, that person does not speak for the whole country. The majority voted to stay.
It was supposed to be a once in a generation vote, when it didn't go the SNPs way they've kept up with the drum banging. We're just as sick of it as you!

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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2017, 01:02:53 PM »
Common, but unfair assessment of the "Scottish Problem" (one of many  :008: )

The Referendum was held before Cameron commited political suicide by referendum, so it is entirely logical that Sturgeon would want to review Scotland's position, after all the vast majority of Scots voted to Remain.

I hope that along with others Sturgeon can put sufficient pressure on May, or her post election successor to go for a softer Brexit, or kick it into touch altogether.

But yes, the wee fishy does go on a bit  :008:

Unsubtle
Some good points in there  :028:


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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2017, 01:43:25 PM »
*Originally Posted by Dilbert [+]
Common, but unfair assessment of the "Scottish Problem" (one of many  :008: )

The Referendum was held before Cameron commited political suicide by referendum, so it is entirely logical that Sturgeon would want to review Scotland's position, after all the vast majority of Scots voted to Remain.

I hope that along with others Sturgeon can put sufficient pressure on May, or her post election successor to go for a softer Brexit, or kick it into touch altogether.

But yes, the wee fishy does go on a bit  :008:

Unsubtle
Some good points in there  :028:

I agree entirely. Well put
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2017, 04:46:15 PM »
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2017, 08:37:29 AM »
Today's word of the day is:

Hubris

What an absolute spanner Mrs May has been. As Prime Minister and leader of a party with an overall majority, she called an election on little more than an ego trip and threw it away. And now she says she has no intention of resigning because what we need in this uncertain scenario is "stability" - that's exactly what you've just tossed down the drain, Theresa!

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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2017, 09:48:23 AM »
With regret I have to agree with Nutter. She snatched defeat from the jaws of success. Got it very wrong with social care, fox hunting as examples.

On the other hand, Corbyn stood in front of us throwing out all the sweeties like free care, cancelling tuition fees etc. That has been very popular with those who have not taken the time to work out who is going to pay for it all.....except the usual middle-classes who pick up the tab every time.

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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2017, 09:57:06 AM »
It was all worth it, if not only to see the SNP get a bit of a kicking and wipe that smug smile of Sturgeons wee face! Hopefully puts the constitutional question to bed for a few years and gives them all a lesson in humility!
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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2017, 01:19:19 PM »
Which bit of only the top 5% will pay more tax and raising corporation tax for big businesses back up to the 26% that the Tories gave their luvvies a huge tax cut from are the "middle classes" expected to pay for ?


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Re: UK General Election
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2017, 03:33:29 PM »
 :005: ...what?........someone has to pay ??  :019:

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