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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2017, 05:19:08 PM »
*Originally Posted by Stageleftblues [+]
Thanks, I just wanted to add if you're viewing this as a guest you are
missing the pictures that I have posted :305:

Er, if we were viewing as guests we wouldn't be allowed to post. You don't really need pictures to explain what you've done......

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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2017, 07:43:09 PM »
*Originally Posted by Stageleftblues [+]
I would like others who have done this to comment and would like to know if the new 3" front rim will fit on the first gen bike.
I would be awfully surprised if anyone else has tried this. To begin with, I don't know where you would find a Trophy rear wheel that is not attached to a Trophy. So few of those bikes were sold prior to its discontinuation. And I can't imagine anyone spending the money on a new wheel to try this.
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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer - Ride Review
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2017, 06:49:29 PM »
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Ok Here it is.

I pushed hard 1500 miles on this rim in 4 days which included 500 miles of aggressive mountain twisties.

The 190/55zr17 Dunlop performed very well no slipping. I would use a 180 faster turn in tire next time.

The offset is about 3/4 of an inch off, meaning middle of tire is un-centered.

My front pr4 had 7 to 8k and was near it's end of life. Tire wore faster on one side.

I did not run the washers I had put on the tire studs.

The back tire still appeared to be tracking in the middle but was slower on right hand turns.

I had to work hard in the tight corners but always felt that way on the stock 150/70zr17 also.

The best part of the Triumph Trophy rim was a better ride. It did not work against the front stock springs.

This would be a good setup for someone who does a lot of straight line riding.

I am leaning towards purchasing a tiger 800 for the aggressive mountain riding and keeping the explorer for touring.

I will update later with tire wear info.

Bryan  :169:

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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2017, 05:21:07 PM »
I once bought a first gen Gold Wing that had an unintentional 1/2" offset of front wheel track from rear wheel (I think that it had been run into a soft ditch and the steering head was twisted). In addition to weird tire wire, it also had unpredictable handling issues at slow speeds and at highway speeds, meaning that it would drop into a turn to the left and fight a turn to the right. Going straight, it would wander at slow speeds and it was a pain in stop and crawl traffic because I was always fighting to keep it straight.

Good luck with yours.
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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2019, 11:50:27 PM »
Update on this thread....I am also in the middle of doing the trophy rear wheel mod and would like to share a couple of points. With the rear wheel mounted without a tire its center line is 15mm to the right side without washers or spacers...I don't want to be running my rear wheel off center nor do i want to be using washers as a spacer so my plan is to obtain another rear diff (keeping my original intact) and use the disc carrier to machine 5mm off this and 10 mm from the inside face of the wheel were there is massive amounts to spare from the casting, this would also involve machining the same off the stepped center part of the wheel which sits on the stepped carrier. Doing away with the very dangerous practice of mounting the wheel on the studs alone. Running a 180 section tire and not a 190 is then possible without intrusive grinding to the swingarm...I am also going to fit a front wheel from a 2007-2012 Street Triple and this being 17" also will enable more sport/track tire choices and imho will look supermoto fantastico ..Now i await the barrage of "why" and "you cant do that"  LOL  :001: :182:   
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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2019, 03:40:28 AM »
*Originally Posted by belpas [+]
..I am also going to fit a front wheel from a 2007-2012 Street Triple and this being 17" also will enable more sport/track tire choices and imho will look supermoto fantastico ..Now i await the barrage of "why" and "you cant do that"  LOL  :001: :182:
To each his own. The 17" front rim will lower the front end and change the steering geometry. But then, if the front wheel spends most of its time in the air, you probably don't care...  :038:
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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2019, 07:40:32 AM »
*Originally Posted by belpas [+]
I don't want to be running my rear wheel off center
I think you will find that the rear wheel already runs off centre from the factory.

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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2019, 12:36:05 PM »
*Originally Posted by Regi T [+]
I think you will find that the rear wheel already runs off centre from the factory.
More likely that the rear fender is off-center:

https://www.tiger-explorer.com/index.php/topic,10839.0.html



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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2019, 02:23:04 PM »
Talking as an engineer with the rear wheel off centre to the front  it would obliviously effect the corning stability, here in the uk the bike would not pass a annual MOT inspection,the wheel alignment is part the inspection.

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Re: 2013 Trophy Rim on 2013 Explorer
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2019, 06:33:43 PM »
*Originally Posted by Tiger Lad [+]
Talking as an engineer with the rear wheel off centre to the front  it would obliviously effect the corning stability, here in the uk the bike would not pass a annual MOT inspection,the wheel alignment is part the inspection.

They do not use any form of alignment tool or apparatus to check wheel alignment on the MOT test only headlight alignment..

 


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