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Offline dunc

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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2018, 11:25:36 PM »
slow riding - maneuvering

foot hard on the rear brake
get your fast idle with the throttle
find the friction point of your clutch and then hold it there
then release the rear brake to control the speed of the bike for slow riding

not the throttle or clutch

i teach it every day
riding instructor
 

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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2018, 04:25:02 AM »
That is interesting, I have never heard of the rear brake method, I have always just engaged and disengaged the clutch right at the friction engagement point.

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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2018, 07:17:34 AM »
Brake pads are cheaper than clutch plates too.
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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2018, 10:23:33 AM »
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no idea

hold the friction dont be using the clutch to control your speed
keep in and out with the lever and yep that will do the clutch in
use the brake
clutch runs in oil




we have bikes 18000 km being abused every day by learners and still on the original clutch using that method

anyway do the slow riding however you like and what ever is easiest for you

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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2018, 11:02:38 AM »
*Originally Posted by dunc [+]
foot hard on the rear brake
get your fast idle with the throttle
find the friction point of your clutch and then hold it there
then release the rear brake to control the speed of the bike for slow riding

It's amazing how slow you really can ride a heavy bike using this method.
I recall "slow racing" events at my local IAM meets where half a dozen bikes would line up to straight-line "race" over a 20m distance and the one to take the longest would be declared the winner. Dabbing a foot meant you were instantly disqualified. Usually it would be some guy on Goldwing taking the honours.
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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2018, 12:52:34 PM »
The Bike Safe guys told me to use the rear brake while stationary for stability while waiting at a Junction - that works for me

I would suggest that you do practice rear brake application - stalling a Tex on any camber is not to be recommended - don't ask me how i know   
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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2018, 02:10:50 PM »
 :460: and therefore upper crashbars are invented  :007: :164:
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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2018, 02:33:19 PM »
*Originally Posted by Tiger T.O. [+]
:460: and therefore upper crashbars are invented  :007: :164:

I've actually got a set of Heed upper bars on order  :007: :152:

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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2018, 04:09:46 PM »
Use of the rear brake allows you to stabilize the bike fore and aft. It loads the front end and reduces front end bobbing up and down with power application, which varies the steering geometry. In short, it makes the bike feel more stable.
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Re: Crawling in heavy traffic with pillion
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2018, 01:00:39 AM »
*Originally Posted by dunc [+]
slow riding - maneuvering

foot hard on the rear brake
get your fast idle with the throttle
find the friction point of your clutch and then hold it there
then release the rear brake to control the speed of the bike for slow riding

not the throttle or clutch

i teach it every day
riding instructor

So when you say you find the friction point of the clutch are you fully engaging the clutch or allowing it to slip when you overpower it with the rear brake?

 


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