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Offline flyingz06

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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #240 on: December 02, 2018, 10:23:52 PM »
*Originally Posted by Hawk281 [+]
I am amazed by some of the posts that their bike is not that hot. If I had not used a thermometer on the tank and seat, I would start to doubt myself and the complaints I have had about this bike. Its winter here, meaning that the temp is a cold 65 or 70, so it is easy to tolerate the tank and seat heat. But when it goes back to 90 or a 100, Ill start complaining again. I have 11000 miles on it in the last eight months and getting ready to pull the aircleaner and check the sync on the injectors. Maybe Ill get a mile or two more a gal, but I doubt it. :002:
 

I have three bikes. yes its the warmest, but oneness to ride the bike and enjoy or sell it

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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #241 on: December 02, 2018, 11:05:00 PM »
*Originally Posted by Hawk281 [+]
Thanks I know about the using the computer to check, but do you have to puul the tank to get to the adjustment screws? Sorry have not gotten around to getting a manual yet. :087:
Yes, but I have not had to do an adjustment as mine has been in spec all along. A note of caution: if you do have to adjust them, it is my understanding that you must use the center cylinder as the reference. I have not looked this up specifically, but I recall a posting a couple of years ago from someone who's TEX was royally screwed up because the service guys did not know this.

Doing the full 20K service with the valve timing did have a significant smoothing effect on my TEX.
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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #242 on: January 06, 2019, 08:00:24 AM »
Some empirical evidence ...

In an earlier post, I suggested covering the front fairing vents - see
https://www.tiger-explorer.com/index.php/topic,17249.msg210773.html#msg210773

Today I measured the effecting using a thermometer with a probe fixed to the bike at knee height on the left side. The probe was not on frame - secured but dangling free so it measured air temp, not frame temp.

I ran the bike at speeds 60, 70, 80 and 100 kms/hr when the ambient air temperature as 26/27° Celsius, over a total test distance of 40 kms.  There was minimal wind so I didn't need to account for its affect.  Relative humidity 30 to 40%.

Results:
Without the vents covered, the probe measured 14 to 15° C above ambient.  Felt warm but not uncomfortable

With the vents covered, the probe measured 8 to 10°  C above ambient.  Definitely felt cooler and heat buildup was not noticeable.

Hotter wat 100 kms/hr, cooler around 60-80.


Then I tested again when the ambient temperature was 35° C.  The test runs were less scientific, and the benefit seemed less conclusive. With the vents covered it definitely felt cooler possibly due to better airflow.  The thermometer indicated +12-15° covered, +14-15° uncovered. At one stage (slow speeds) the temperature knee level temperature was 51° C - IMO,  proof the Tiger runs too hot for comfort in warmer climates.


Anyway, I will stick with covered vents and convince myself the problem is fixed  :152:
« Last Edit: January 06, 2019, 08:03:47 AM by anthonyp0808 »
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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #243 on: January 06, 2019, 04:49:08 PM »
Did you correlate the air temperature with observations of the displayed engine cooling temperature? Just wondering if blocking the air vents has any impact on raising the coolant temperature under really hot circumstances.
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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #244 on: January 06, 2019, 09:17:29 PM »
The coolant gauge seemed no different to normal - midrange.

If there was any efect it would be to run the engine cooler as more cooler air is being forced downwards over the engine and radiator.

Note - it is NOT the large  radiator extractor vents that are closed - that would certainly cause issues.  The vents closed are those behind the headlights.
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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #245 on: January 07, 2019, 01:24:51 AM »
*Originally Posted by anthonyp0808 [+]
The coolant gauge seemed no different to normal - midrange.

If there was any efect it would be to run the engine cooler as more cooler air is being forced downwards over the engine and radiator.

Note - it is NOT the large  radiator extractor vents that are closed - that would certainly cause issues.  The vents closed are those behind the headlights.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #246 on: July 13, 2019, 07:34:49 AM »
Hello There,
As 2018 model owner and previous 2012 model owner I can confirm the heat si really unbearable.
But to be honest this is only over 28°C roughly. Unfortunately you can imagine with the 37°C we reached during the previous weeks in France.
Triumph : bikes for cool countries? / Maybe not so wrong.
Did anybody try to remote the plastic shroud around the fan to avoid having the flow directed undr the tank?
Just fot information, I brought my bike to the dealer for the 16K service and tried the Scrambler 1200.
Result, even journalists said the exhaust heat is terrible, I was better installed that on the Tiger.
The temperature was 30 / 31°C.
I am wondering if I should move to the Scrambler which is lighter and fun on backroads.
Drawbacks : smaller tank, chain, low protection...
Regards
Have a good summer
Frenchtiger

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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #247 on: July 13, 2019, 02:05:12 PM »
I went from a ‘15 air cooled Scrambler to the Explorer because my wife wanted to ride with me again. She had both knees replaced and really couldn’t ride for a while.
That being said, the AC Scrambler was every bit as hot as my Explorer (MY’15).

That new liquid cooled Scrambler XC with the white & green tank is one beautiful bike. Still a cool weather bike due to the high exhaust though.
I just no longer ride past 90-95F, just can’t handle it anymore.

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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #248 on: July 13, 2019, 06:33:56 PM »
For what it's worth, I spent almost a month on a rented 2017 R1200GS riding in 31C ++  temperatures in southern Africa in May and had no perceived engine heat problems at all on that bike, even in traffic jams at midday. If you are really looking to make a change, then try one of those.
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Re: 2018 tiger 1200 unbearable engine heat
« Reply #249 on: July 13, 2019, 07:32:14 PM »
Of course. No water cooling, no fans. But they do overheat and stop working in mid summer heat if you are stuck in traffic. You gotta keep moving to keep the boxer cool... I've also seen them overheat and cutoff on dirt under abuse 😂
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