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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2018, 04:16:24 AM »
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My valves have never needed adjustment. Even the first one.   I had them check them before a long trip when The Whole 20k or 10k service discussion. All fine. Not noisy not tight. Best case I pay nothing for repairs. Worst I do. Test rode a ktm 1290 r. Really nice bikes.
Having done my own 20k service and found that 10 of the 12 valves were out of spec, it makes me wonder if they actually did the valve checks. Something doesn't add up.
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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2018, 02:30:20 PM »
Agreed.
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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2018, 07:58:47 PM »
Update. The exhaust valve would not seat on 3/4 of the valve. So the valve was bent and would not seat. No damage or cracks. So claim sent to triumph to see if they good will the parts and labor. Updates to follow.
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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #23 on: November 10, 2018, 09:00:28 PM »
Very strange indeed. Did it ever slip out of gear under full power ?

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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #24 on: November 10, 2018, 11:28:07 PM »
*Originally Posted by anaheimtex [+]
Update. The exhaust valve would not seat on 3/4 of the valve. So the valve was bent and would not seat. No damage or cracks. So claim sent to triumph to see if they good will the parts and labor. Updates to follow.
That's pretty much exactly the scenario that happened to those who had a first generation TEX with soft valve guides. In some cases, the valve head separated causing total engine failure. There was a major head replacement program under a series of service bulletins. Mine was one of them (an early 2013 model).
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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2018, 10:02:05 PM »
Well T good willing all parts required to put bike right. NOT labor. So guess I’m eating $2600.
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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2018, 10:39:27 PM »
*Originally Posted by anaheimtex [+]
My valves have never needed adjustment. Even the first one.   I had them check them before a long trip when The Whole 20k or 10k service discussion. All fine. Not noisy not tight.

That's almost unheard of...I think when this is over you need to find another shop....30 years of riding and wrenching and not once have I come across a valve train  that was still in spec at the first valve check....  Im sure its possible, its just not likely

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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2018, 05:12:04 AM »
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That's almost unheard of...I think when this is over you need to find another shop....30 years of riding and wrenching and not once have I come across a valve train  that was still in spec at the first valve check....  Im sure its possible, its just not likely
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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2018, 05:53:37 PM »
Maybe...just don’t know. But what is for certain are the valve guides failing. Valve adjustment is a moot point. The valves were not noisy and they were not stuck open from being to tight. No other valves on the head were burned and the seats nice and shiny. The problem ones in the oblong valve guide holes were hitting on an angle. Valves not bent either. Just my crap luck.
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Re: Hard to start. Stalling at lights
« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2018, 04:05:32 AM »
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The problem ones in the oblong valve guide holes were hitting on an angle. Valves not bent either. Just my crap luck.
That should not be your problem. The soft valve guide problem was a known issue in 2012 and 2013 models. Other owners have been given consideration, even though they are second owners and their bikes are out of warranty. 
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