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Re: Tex clutch mod / warranty repair.
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2019, 06:24:50 PM »
I am going to repeat a post that I made in another thread on Dec. 28 because it is probably more relevant here in the context of Gen3 T12s and abrupt clutch engagement:

I noted this complaint in the November issue of Ride magazine. The mag staff held their fleet sports day where they compare their Ride fleet (8 bikes) in a series of challenges including 100 metre sprint, figure-of-eight, top speed, emergency stop and slow race.

They currently have a 2018 XRT current ridden by Simon Weir. He noted in the slow race that the T12 has "very little clutch slip - it's basically on or off - and it is a very heavy machine." He states that "it wants to move forwards at a smooth, elegantly controlled 5 mph" but not any slower. His T12 had 8800 miles on it at the time of the sports day.
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Re: Tex clutch mod / warranty repair.
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2019, 09:41:06 PM »
 :460:  :0461: :0461: That'd be my experience - I can do down to 4 mph, 3 mph on stop & go traffic, but not any slower. It's very hard to keep it steady lower than that - but I never had a chance to stand up on the pegs and use it without bulky winter gear without cables sticking out of me everywhere. I bought the machine in the dead of winter...

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Re: Tex clutch mod / warranty repair.
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2019, 08:53:54 AM »
Same here.
Slow operation is smooth and steady.
Very slow operation requires much clutch slipping.
However, I don't find it that difficult (once the engine is at nominal running temperature, that is).

The only real annoyance is the cold takeoff. It seems to be improving with miles, but it could just be me getting used to it ;-)

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Re: Tex clutch mod / warranty repair.
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2019, 05:13:10 PM »
*Originally Posted by NiK [+]
The only real annoyance is the cold takeoff. It seems to be improving with miles, but it could just be me getting used to it ;-)
For cold takeoff, my gen1 started off fine cold and got gradually worse over time.
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Re: Tex clutch mod / warranty repair.
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2019, 02:45:38 AM »
I have found that if I slightly rev the engine on and off (500 rpm or so) I can better get into the slip zone.  I am pulsing the motor instead of the clutch pulsing.  I do that when I am trying to start slow or have issues with the judder.  Most of the time though I just engage and go. 




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Re: Tex clutch mod / warranty repair.
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2019, 10:19:44 AM »
Add "hill hold" and you have the potential to look like a right twat on take off at low speeds. I know!

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Re: Tex clutch mod / warranty repair.
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 03:11:53 PM »
 :0461: Had the engine stalling two times at traffic lights :012: :012:  very embarrassing  :192:
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Re: Tex clutch mod / warranty repair.
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2019, 03:26:44 PM »
*Originally Posted by Tiger T.O. [+]
:0461: Had the engine stalling two times at traffic lights :012: :012:  very embarrassing  :192:

try the two fingers method: two fingers operate clutch, the other two act as stoppers on the handle so that the clutch stays closer to the friction zone... see how it goes, please
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Re: Tex clutch mod / warranty repair.
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2019, 05:10:04 PM »
*Originally Posted by Tiger T.O. [+]
:0461: Had the engine stalling two times at traffic lights :012: :012:  very embarrassing  :192:
I wonder if these 'features' combined with the reduction in flywheel weight (as promoted by Triumph in their marketing literature) have had a negative effect on the tractability of the gen3. Seems to be the case. IMO, this definitely lives in the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' realm.
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