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Online Will Morgan

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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 10:28:25 AM »
I'm not familiar with the Gen 3 Tiger 1200 with LED lights, TFT screen etc but my Street Triple does have them (& maybe similar ???) with the option to have either the LED running lights on or dipped headlights on. If you choose the LEDs the dip switch acts as a headlight flash/passing light. If you choose the headlights the switch just acts as a normal dip switch.

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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 10:57:49 AM »
It's the same for the Mk3 T1200.
But not in the US.

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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 05:18:46 PM »
*Originally Posted by NiK [+]
And do not forget their extraordinary team of software developers, who prove their fabulous preofessional skills over and again {c8
Team? You mean that weird guy 'Merlin' who has a picture of Darth Vader on his office wall and never seems to shower?
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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 06:35:51 PM »
*Originally Posted by NiK [+]
And do not forget their extraordinary team of software developers, who prove their fabulous preofessional skills over and again {c8

*Originally Posted by CaptainTrips [+]
Team? You mean that weird guy 'Merlin' who has a picture of Darth Vader on his office wall and never seems to shower?

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I am so sorry, whoever this chap is - but I can't help it

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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2019, 06:48:36 PM »
I worked with 'Merlin' (not his real name) for more than twenty years. He had the two-volume set of Monty Python's Flying Circus - All the Words on his desk. Some of his popup error message dialog boxes contained quotations from the Dead Parrot sketch. He had (and probably still has) "medieval jousting" under 'hobbies and interests' on his resume.  :002:
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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2019, 06:53:34 PM »
*Originally Posted by Icy [+]
I am so sorry, whoever this chap is - but I can't help it
Placing that picture from '84 or '85 based on the gear and glasses, there is a very good chance that this chap is now retired with three or four hundred million dollars in the bank.  :001:
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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2019, 06:57:37 PM »
*Originally Posted by CaptainTrips [+]
Placing that picture from '84 or '85 based on the gear and glasses, there is a very good chance that this chap is now retired with three or four hundred million dollars in the bank.  :001:

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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2019, 09:04:54 PM »
This thread has prompted me to ask something that I'd wondered for a while...

...In North America, what is a flash of the headlights used for? Not necessarily what is enshrined in law, but what do drivers/riders actually use it for?

Here in the UK flashing headlights is, in practice and usually not in accordance with the rules of the road, normally for one of the following:

  • To say "you can go", e.g. when an oncoming vehicle is waiting to turn across your path in busy traffic but doesn't have right of way, and you slow and briefly flash full beam to let them.
  • To say "thanks", e.g. on narrow single track lanes only wide enough for one car between either verge/hedge/wall, when an oncoming vehicle has stopped in a passing place and you can go through.
  • To say "please get out of my way", e.g. when someone is hogging an overtaking lane without overtaking, or when the car behind is an Audi and tries bullying anyone not willing to drive at 300mph (replace "please" with different words for those drivers)
  • To say "you moron! What the hell are you doing?!" when someone drives straight into your path without looking. Normally accompanied by plentiful horn.
  • To alert other road users to your presence, e.g. just before overtaking (very rare)

Without thinking about where I was, I once tried number 1 whilst riding in the US and quickly realised it was not interpreted as it would be at home. It seemed that US drivers tend to use hand signals to beckon someone in that situation, though I think that's getting more difficult to see as windscreens get more tinted and reflective so you can't easily see occupants, especially with bright sunlight on the screen (or at night).

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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2019, 09:13:37 PM »
Flashing lights = Passing lights

It's very contextual here.

Positive version:
A flash of a light is most commonly used when you want to indicate somebody that you are going to give them way... This is clear that you are not moving and the other vehicle is trying to turn (most usually) and you would do one flash. Or two with distinct spacing in between. You know, you are not angry, it's all chill.

Negative version:
Very fast repetition, usually accompanied or preceeded / followed by honk... This is a clear indication that you are pissed. Most common use is when some dumb@ss cuts you off; we have a ton of those morons who think a turn indicator is enough for the entire traffic to stop so that they can blindly merge themselves in to the faster moving lane.

In the North East / New England area I95 (one of the highways you pay a toll for. it's the default truck route) is a f#ckfest of flasing lights and honks.
New York City is already full of light so honking is the preferred method of airing of grievances; but the positive version is quite common outside of manhattan. You will see people signalling you to pass - you have two seconds though so you need to be moving at the speed of light. Otherwise honks will start - sound moves slower you know.

On the motorcycle I never use flashers and/or passing lights to indicate my willingness to wait for the vehicle to do something. I always use clear hand signals: I'll put out my hand with an extended arm and gesture a "pass" move, always my left hand - that means I never gesture anything when I am moving. If I find myself in danger, I'll maneuver to safety first and then communicate my feelings using various light and sound signals and compose something on the spot that fits the bill.

I personally believe in directing the traffic - I either tell or indicate or steer vehicles. If I don't know what a vehicle will do I'll keep my distance. On two way roads I always watch for oncoming drivers' eyes. Being a tall bike helps - if I flash it's because I am trying to warn them of something, ie there's a LEO up ahead type of warning. Which is common in cager world. More than once I saw an oncoming vehicle do the flashers completely out of context and I knew what he was talking about. Sure enough a hidden patrol car somewhere up ahead...
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Re: No passing light?
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2019, 10:04:44 PM »
In our neck of the woods:

1. You can go. Often used on the fly, for example, as a courtesy when being overtaken by a heavy transport vehicle to let them know that it is safe for them to pull back into your lane, or to let a bus know that you are giving way to them when they are reentering a busy street from a bus stop. Or at a four-way stop, giving way to the opposing driver.

2. Get out of the way. Get out of the fast lane. Mostly considered rude.
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