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Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« on: January 25, 2019, 07:44:32 PM »
My current TEX 1200 (2014) it said to have a seat height from 840 to 855 mm.
I use 840 mm and it fits to get feets safely on the ground.

The T1200 XCA/XRT (2018) should have 835 to 850 mm.

Today I visited my dealer and tried a XCA at low setting of 835 in the shop but could NOT reach safely the ground with my toes. It feels like on high position.

Even my dealer did not know where the difference comes from.
Is it possible that without battery and in the dynamic setting or Off-Road Pro mode the feather at rear is more extended than in other settings?

Both bikes have seat heating.

Any idea what could cause this?

Thanks
Michael
« Last Edit: January 25, 2019, 08:24:20 PM by TigerMAK »

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Re: Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2019, 08:44:40 PM »
Your 2014 Tex rear spring could just be a little tired and slightly compressed over time, same for the seat. You probably have a manual rear preload too so it all depends on where you have that set for SAG, you might have it wound right off?

The TSAS will always try and optimise the rear preload, you keep increasing weight and it will keep adding more preload (raising the rear) to compensate to try and keep the attitude of the bike the same. Off-road mode actually drops the rear end to increase rake & trail for a stabler front end on the rough so that is not it. Does your 2014 have manually adjustable preload, maybe that is wound right off? There is no front preload adjustment on the Gen 3 apart from the very entry level XR either, does your 2014 have manual front preload, is that wound right off?

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Re: Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2019, 08:59:31 PM »
Everything is still default since the begin.
When I tried in 2014 it was not that high than today on the new T1200.

Maybe I shrinked already during the years...

Another idea: can I lower the fork by 1,5 cm or does this influence the TSAS too much?

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Re: Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2019, 09:05:18 PM »
*Originally Posted by TigerMAK [+]

Another idea: can I lower the fork by 1,5 cm or does this influence the TSAS too much?

I have lowered the front and rear on my XRT, for the rear you need a special kit such from this supplier as you need to change the link that operates the TSAS http://www.lustracing.co.uk/suspension/triumph-lowering-kits.html

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Re: Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2019, 09:10:50 PM »
Another idea: can I lower the fork by 1,5 cm or does this influence the TSAS too much?

The TSAS rear preload amount will not be too affected (as in trying to compensate) by lowering the front forks because it just won't know. The rake is already quite steep on this bike and I think this is a really poor idea to be honest, don't do it. The front and rear really need to be dropped together. I am 6ft and took an XRx Low out, I was quite comfortable on it and found it quite refreshing to ride, would you consider that? No centre stand but I'm not sure that is a problem on a shafty. The low offers a total drop of 50mm compared to stock I think.

Benchmark solution seems to take care of the rear, nice one.

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Re: Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2019, 09:12:13 PM »
Great, this should solve my height problem.

I had such a part on my 1050, but did not expect that it could be used for the T1200 as well.

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Re: Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2019, 09:17:43 PM »
The XRX is missing to many features I need and is too low for me, I tried seating on it.

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Re: Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2019, 08:50:30 PM »
When you said you "tried" it, did you mean you rode it or just sat on it?

They adjust as you go along. Until your full weight is on the seat, the adjustment is not complete.

Seems that way to me, and I'm sure someone will correct me if i'm wrong.

I'm a bit vertically challenged (and ancient) and I found the Lust 20mm lowering link helped enormously. But sounds like that might be too much for you.


*Originally Posted by TigerMAK [+]
My current TEX 1200 (2014) it said to have a seat height from 840 to 855 mm.
I use 840 mm and it fits to get feets safely on the ground.

The T1200 XCA/XRT (2018) should have 835 to 850 mm.

Today I visited my dealer and tried a XCA at low setting of 835 in the shop but could NOT reach safely the ground with my toes. It feels like on high position.

Even my dealer did not know where the difference comes from.
Is it possible that without battery and in the dynamic setting or Off-Road Pro mode the feather at rear is more extended than in other settings?

Both bikes have seat heating.

Any idea what could cause this?

Thanks
Michael
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Re: Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2019, 10:18:25 PM »
I just sat on it, in the shop.

But I‘ll use a lowering kit as with my 1050 before - when necessary!

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Re: Tiger 1200 XCA/XRT Seat height
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2019, 01:03:01 AM »
I'm six foot, 32 inch inseam and I bought the 2018 XRX low. Nice to have my feet back on the ground again. I don't ride off road, so clearance isn't an issue with me. I just wanted the features the bike provides. Comfortable egos, shaft drive, Cruise .  Basically a sport tourer with out too much sport for my back. Would have been nice to get the quick shift and everything else I now have to decide to pay for or not. But I got the bike new for just over $15,000, so it's not so bad.

 


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