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Offline Willy Eckerslike

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Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« on: April 01, 2019, 08:32:15 AM »
Hello to all forum members.
I have joined the forum to glean some more information and opinions about the 2018/19 XRT. Currently I ride a KTM 1290 Adv S doing around 8-10k per year. I have been looking at the re-vamped XRT and know it has in my humble opinion been brought more into line with the GS and KTM. I am interested to see if anyone else has swopped from a KTM to a Triumph.

Whilst I love riding my KTM, I would like to buy British. The KTM is as anyone who has ridden one will know is one hell of a bike and a hard act to follow.

Will I miss the KTMs crazy power and light handling.
Is the Triumph smoother and more comfortable.
The Triumph is slightly lower which is attractive.
Shaft drive is attractive, though the KTM's chain seems to last well.
Will i still be able to upset power rangers.
Will i notice the extra weight.
Am i getting old.
Pete





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Re: Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2019, 08:42:44 AM »
Hi  :400: to the forum, if you decide to buy a triumph you won’t be disappointed.  :031:

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Re: Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2019, 09:23:55 AM »
 Not sure if I can answer all those questions, but I tested the KTM before I chose the Tex, and rejected it. The KTM seemed very raw and brutal in comparison to the Tex. Whether that is to your taste is purely personal preference.

I wish, though, that the tex were as light as the KTM.

But I think the tex is set up better for touring, which is my main purpose.

I'm 67 and not getting any younger, and if a Tiger 800 were to jump out of the bushes, I could easily be persuaded to swap.
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Re: Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2019, 09:42:00 AM »
Oh, and welcome, by the way!

My son is playing a gig in Chippenham on Friday (?) at the Railway Tavern (?) (the pub at the back of the station). Great band....but I would say that.

I used to live in Corsham.
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Re: Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2019, 09:50:41 AM »
Where's Chippenham, is that down south somewhere  :016:

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Re: Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2019, 09:55:18 AM »
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Hello to all forum members.
Welcome here, potential newbie ;-)

*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Will I miss the KTMs crazy power and light handling.
Yes you will.
The T12 dynamics is excellent, but nowhere near as bicycle-like as any KTM.
As for power, the sensations are certainly less crazy, but as far as performance goes the near 140bhp are more than enough.

*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Is the Triumph smoother and more comfortable.
You probably can't imagine how much (yet).
The current T12 can be made hard and sharp as a sport-touring bike or mellow and smooth as a tourer. All at the press of a button (well, ok, several presses on the joystick ;-).
I'm doing 20,000km a year (all weather) since 2008 and my current T12 is by far the best miles muncher I ever had.

*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
The Triumph is slightly lower which is attractive.
Not being vertically challenged (yet ;-), I can't comment on that.

*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Shaft drive is attractive, though the KTM's chain seems to last well.
Since I bought my first T12, I've never looked back at any chain-driven bike. It's not only the lifespan, it's the silence and complete lack of hassle for maintenance. Again, at 20k km a year, this does change things.

*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Will i still be able to upset power rangers.
Well, with a 0-100 km/h figure below 4 seconds, I think the T12 somewhat is a power ranger ;-)

*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Will i notice the extra weight.
Yes you will.
At any speed below 20 km/h.
Then, you'll have much too many things to enjoy to care about the weight.

*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Am i getting old.
Yes you are. As we all are.
And getting wiser doesn't necessarily imply getting boring or spoiled.
Here is my personal view on aging: better old than dead!

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Re: Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2019, 10:04:27 AM »
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Will I miss the KTMs crazy power and light handling.
Yes. Triumph is very capable but power to weight ratio isn't as bonkers as KTM & not as light & agile.
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Is the Triumph smoother and more comfortable.
Yes. Triumph is infinitely more comfortable especially 2 up.
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
The Triumph is slightly lower which is attractive.
Yes. The KTM is stupid tall and they don't even offer a low seat.
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Shaft drive is attractive, though the KTM's chain seems to last well.
Yes. Shaft is a big factor against KTM, Ducati MS etc. Big factor in favour of Triumph is it is shaft but not "yet another bloody BMW GS".
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Will i still be able to upset power rangers.
Yes. The bike is quite capable of upsetting them but it really rather depends on their abilities....and of course yours.
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Will i notice the extra weight.
Yes, The Triumph is not just a heavy bike, it's top heavy, especially with a full tank. But I'm an old short unfit feeble weakling and can manage it.
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Am i getting old.
Yes. Getting old is compulsory. But growing up is voluntary.

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Re: Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2019, 10:27:56 AM »
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]
Where's Chippenham, is that down south somewhere  :016:

Oops, i looked at the first reply and saw Chippenham, and thought I was looking at your post.

Yes, down south in Wiltshire.

I should have twigged from your handle, really, that you were from God's county, of Boycott, Hutton and Close.
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Re: Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2019, 11:29:08 AM »
*Originally Posted by Willy Eckerslike [+]

Will I miss the KTMs crazy power and light handling.
Is the Triumph smoother and more comfortable.
The Triumph is slightly lower which is attractive.
Shaft drive is attractive, though the KTM's chain seems to last well.
Will i still be able to upset power rangers.
Will i notice the extra weight.
Am i getting old.
Pete

Hi,
Swapped back to a 1200 after 2 years of 1190A ownership - previous Explorer and 1050 Tigers. Although slightly tamer than the 1290 I don't miss the few BHP less.
The triple will always be more refined than a twin and was the main reason to return. It has a character and off-beat note to the engine without being a boring in-line 4.
The shaft drive is great but might always seem clunky in comparison to a chain.
Biggest thing I think you'll notice is the Tiger weigh sits higher in the frame than the twin so is often criticised when pushing it about. Once on the move it looses this and comes alive. You'll easily keep much the same pace as you did on the Ka TooM.

Take a test ride and make up your own mind but I'm not going back.

Hax.

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Re: Thinking of Trading KTM 1290s for a Triumph XRT
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2019, 12:34:52 PM »
I can't speak to most of your questions except the height. I bought a 2018 XRX Low. All I can say is it's nice to be firmly flat footed after years of being kind of flat footed. It's still has more ground clearance than most bikes. Lower CG as well, which makes a surprising difference over the standard. Didn't expect that. Of course if you actually go off road frequently at high speed then maybe not.

 


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