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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2019, 10:17:52 PM »
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The number of riders who buy the 1200 TEX and take it truly off-road is minuscule. But hopefully it will grow, maybe, eventually. When there is a market, then there is a product.


But as I said before, if you truly went off-road on rough terrain it will change to off-road mode for you anyway, on the fly, without you even having to select it. That is the semi-active part of TSAS for you. Go down a rough road/track and watch it change by itself.

 :169: I am dying to test this. It will be so cool when I see it do this by itself... I haven't - of course - read the manual. Do you think XCx has this feature? Or would the XCr would?
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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2019, 10:23:57 PM »
Do you think XCx has this feature?  Pretty sure it does ICY, if it has TSAS it should do this.

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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2019, 10:37:54 PM »
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Do you think XCx has this feature?  Pretty sure it does ICY, if it has TSAS it should do this.

Roger that! I wonder how it knows...
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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2019, 08:46:28 AM »
That is the bit NiK refers to According to the Triumph brochure, the front wheel transmits data to the rear in real-time, letting the latter instantly adapt its parameters.
This would qualify as semi-active wouldn't it?

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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2019, 01:04:55 PM »
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]
That is the bit NiK refers to According to the Triumph brochure, the front wheel transmits data to the rear in real-time, letting the latter instantly adapt its parameters.
This would qualify as semi-active wouldn't it?


Oh I totally didn't get that  :008:

In my mind, the only thing the front would transfer is "I am fine" unless I lost control of the front and it slid - in that case it's pretty much too late. When on a dirt road, I'd adjust my speed and try to never let that happen. TTC would never turn off because I'd never lock my breaks - and when I need to lock my rear it'd be too late for the on-the-fly adjustment... TTC would do its job and prevent the rear from locking.

Then according to the Triumph brochure TTC will decide "oh, he must be off tarmac, let me disable myself" based on how well the front is doing  :084: If anything, it should tighten up even more. As in "oh, he must be riding on hazardous conditions, slippery roads, rain, slick etc" otherwise I'd expect that sucker to turn itself off when I need it the most... I literally put the bike on Rain mode, adjusted the shocks to "comfort" setting and didn't fiddle with it at all... and of course never read the f'ing manual... Maybe it's in there somewhere

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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2019, 01:27:25 PM »
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The little kid inside me wishes this to be true and the Triumph to have magical powers...
This makes you the perfect customer ;-)

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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2019, 01:50:04 PM »
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This makes you the perfect customer ;-)

I am on my THIRD TEX! How much more perfect can I be?  :027:  :745:
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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2019, 04:03:51 PM »
That is the full extent of the Semi-Active part of the Triumph TSAS as far as I can tell, I would be confident of that. It switches the damping in the road-based modes, e.g. Road, Rain, Sport or Rider to an off-road level (which you can also customise) if it automatically detects a bumpy ride. What it does not do however is change the rider mode to off-road or off-road pro (if you have it). Therefore, your traction control and ABS are unchanged from the rider mode you are in. In summary - it changes the damping automatically in a road base rider mode, nothing more.

See screen shots showing the two different damping settings in one rider mode, I have used the sport mode in this example.





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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2019, 04:09:27 PM »
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]

The number of riders who buy the 1200 TEX and take it truly off-road is minuscule. But hopefully it will grow, maybe, eventually. When there is a market, then there is a product.


But as I said before, if you truly went off-road on rough terrain it will change to off-road mode for you anyway, on the fly, without you even having to select it. That is the semi-active part of TSAS for you. Go down a rough road/track and watch it change by itself.

So I have to modify that statement a little from this - if you truly went off-road on rough terrain it will change to off-road mode for you anyway, on the fly, without you even having to select it.  to this: It won't change to an off-road rider mode, just an off-road damping setting.

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Re: Off road mode and traction control
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2019, 06:34:10 PM »
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]
So I have to modify that statement a little from this - if you truly went off-road on rough terrain it will change to off-road mode for you anyway, on the fly, without you even having to select it.  to this: It won't change to an off-road rider mode, just an off-road damping setting.

 :028: Not only does that make sense, but it also explains how sometimes this bike feels like I'm driving an old Buick, with a happy floating sensation and the suspension as soft as cotton candy and sometimes it feels like I'm riding a d@mn tractor with 4 by 4s instead of suspensions.  :062:  :305:
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