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Offline KenW

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Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« on: June 22, 2019, 02:01:30 AM »
Something that happens to me on my gen3 Tiger...

Sometimes when riding through a small town with cruise control on, I brake to kill it.  Then on the other side of town I hit the resume lever, and instead of resuming at the previous speed (usually 80 or 100 km/h), it resumes at the current speed, which might be around 60km/h.

Its not a genuine set, because this takes two presses of the 'set' lever.  Its a resume, with one press of the 'resume' lever.
It doesn't always happen like this, but often enough.

Anyone else having the same thing happen to them?

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Re: Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2019, 05:14:32 PM »
Yes, plus one of this strange behaviour. Happens intermittent, and after 30000 km on my 2018 XRt I still have absolutely no idea why the reset sometimes works flawlessly and at other time resumes at the current speed. Seeing it happening in South Australia, too, at least confirms to me that it is not myself going bonkers but indeed a real flaw. Maybe a gremlin in the firmware of one of the four brainboxes of the bike or a weird combination of input signals from the zillion CAN bus sensors?
Hopefully one of our more electronically minded members can shed some light on this?

Ride safely

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Re: Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2019, 07:54:30 PM »
I think it is "Skynet" checking to see if you are paying attention. When it sees that you aren't, it will take control of your T(Terminator?)-1200. Just sayin.  :005:

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Re: Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2019, 11:16:35 PM »
*Originally Posted by Hawk281 [+]
I think it is "Skynet" checking to see if you are paying attention. When it sees that you aren't, it will take control of your T(Terminator?)-1200. Just sayin.  :005:
Well that explains the occasional "keyfob out of range" error then.  Temporary signal interference from Skynet.

And my other glitch, a reset to the fuel consumption occasionally starts it at 50L/100km -Skynet has gulped some of my fuel?

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Re: Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2019, 03:10:37 PM »
on the serious side, could you have moisture in the switch housing, which is causing intermittent contact?

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Re: Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2019, 06:37:34 PM »
*Originally Posted by KenW [+]
Something that happens to me on my gen3 Tiger...

Sometimes when riding through a small town with cruise control on, I brake to kill it.  Then on the other side of town I hit the resume lever, and instead of resuming at the previous speed (usually 80 or 100 km/h), it resumes at the current speed, which might be around 60km/h.

Its not a genuine set, because this takes two presses of the 'set' lever.  Its a resume, with one press of the 'resume' lever.
It doesn't always happen like this, but often enough.

Anyone else having the same thing happen to them?
Happens here too but it does not worry me much. Just push Set again. The CC is much better than my GEN 1 Explorers
And it behaves same as on my 2017  Tiger  Sport..

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Re: Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2019, 06:27:04 AM »
Interesting I have not had that happen on mine that I can recall.  Though when I am going to kick off the cruise I normally use the throttle.

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Re: Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2019, 08:49:30 AM »
Well, I rode almost 100,000 km with the original Mk1 CC (right handed). It was spot on almost everytime I used it (i.e. all the time!).

Since I got my Mk3, I must say the CC is a setback compared to the previous iteration:
- Firstly, placing the rocker switch on the upside of the left cluster is an ergonomic abomination. I use the 'Mode' button once or twice a year, whereas I use the CC button once or twice a minute. How's that for a well-thought control?
- Secondly, I used to press my old CCs very quickly and it always responded instantly. The new one was never able to achieve this level of responsiveness.
- Thirdly, I sometimes experience surprising behaviors like the ones you describe (no effect, even with repeated clicks, wrong speed recalled, etc.). The countless firmware updates that have been applied in one year never changed a thing about that.

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Re: Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2019, 12:49:39 AM »
I know this is an older thread but it interesting to hear some of your stories, the last time my bike was back for a warranty repair to a gasket I mentioned the Cruise control being naff.

2018 Tiger 1200 XRT

As mentioned I have had the glitches above but my biggest issue is the automatic resume that is meant to happen with you have used the throttle to overtake and then coming back to the set speed.
If I roll the throttle on and then try to gently ease back off to to release the throttle the Cruise will not pick up the set speed until you ave let go of the throttle entirely even if it’s below the set speed. If you release the throttle at a higher speed than the set speed and let it return to the set speed it always falls below the set speed before finally re-accelerating back to the set speed. This means you end up having to jump on the throttle to bring the speed back up but then the whole thing starts again. At 70mph the drop is as low as 6-7mph below the set speed before it picks up.

The Triumph tachs agreed it did show this symptom on a test ride but the Triumph system registers no fault! Triumph U.K. said they are asking about it but so far I have found them to be as useful as a chocolate fry8ng pan!

I’ve had Cruise on 7 BMWs bikes and various cars but never experienced anything this bad on CC

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Re: Cruise control funnies on 2018 Tiger
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2019, 01:48:10 PM »
...my biggest issue is the automatic resume that is meant to happen with you have used the throttle to overtake and then coming back to the set speed.
If I roll the throttle on and then try to gently ease back off to to release the throttle the Cruise will not pick up the set speed until you ave let go of the throttle entirely even if it’s below the set speed. If you release the throttle at a higher speed than the set speed and let it return to the set speed it always falls below the set speed before finally re-accelerating back to the set speed. This means you end up having to jump on the throttle to bring the speed back up but then the whole thing starts again. At 70mph the drop is as low as 6-7mph below the set speed before it picks up.

I haven't noticed that gremlin yet, but I usually switch the CC off prior to e. g. overtaking someone. I will give that a try in the next few days once the weather gods allow me to ride again and will report back on the result.

Ride safely

Pete

 


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