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Offline MTNFSH

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Fog light unreliability?
« on: August 22, 2019, 11:02:52 PM »
I have a 2015 Tiger Explorer with the stock fog lights that work 99% of the time but find that at the end of a long tour they became unreliable- they turn off repeatedly at the end of a long day.  I have had the dealer check the lights but they don’t find anything wrong after a brief test ride.  I want to ask if anyone else has had a similar experience where the fog lights switch off at the end of day long rides?  If so, any solutions/ ideals?   :440:
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Re: Fog light unreliability?
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2019, 11:55:57 PM »
I would check for loose/corroded connectors.
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Re: Fog light unreliability?
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2019, 11:06:31 AM »
I have experienced what you describe.  It only occurs on very long tours.

It may be a heat issue.  It never happens in rainy conditions if I recall correctly.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2019, 11:10:20 AM by Fuze »

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Re: Fog light unreliability?
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2019, 11:58:23 AM »
when they go off does the light on the switch go out?  can you turn them right back on?  if yes to both my first guess would be the relay..easy to check, just swap it and see what happens

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Re: Fog light unreliability?
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2019, 04:23:42 PM »
Are the 15 models still halogen? They get super hot.
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Re: Fog light unreliability?
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2019, 05:13:31 PM »
The lights do go out typically only at the end of long ride days when it is hot come to think about it.  I can switch them back on but then they turn off again a few seconds later (not sure if this is a relay issue or just the heat of the lights?).  I will have to check more closely to see if the 2015 model still has halogen bulbs but the heat issue could be the key here - not a wiring fault. 

I had my hydraulic clutch stop working briefly at an adventure bike field class when I was do a lot of low speed rounds on a course and the system came back once the bike had cooled down / no problem for rest of the trip at more regular operating levels - so I wonder if the fog lights have a similar overheating protection built in?)
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Re: Fog light unreliability?
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2019, 09:10:32 AM »
I had exactly that on my first (halogen) 2012 Mk1.
It didn't reoccur when I got the LED foglights on my Mk1.5 (2014).
AFAIR, it wasn't linked to ambient heat (I can remember having repeated cutouts at night). BTW, I don't think any halogen system comes with an overheating prevention device.
All I can remember is that it was apparently random and the dealer never could repeat it nor cure it (as usual).
Now, I'd try a replacement relay (https://www.ebay.com/itm/EEFUN-12V-40A-Voiture-Relais-avec-Faisceau-de-Cable-Colore-4-Broches-SPST/273696936594?hash=item3fb99bd292:g:uzsAAOSwyHxcYXs7).
« Last Edit: August 29, 2019, 09:13:03 AM by NiK »

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Re: Fog light unreliability?
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2019, 12:00:04 PM »
randomly not staying on and the dealer never being able to repeat it nor cure it (as usual) sounds just about the same as my experience with the fog lights. I think the halogen vs led examples give me a good clue. Can focus on fixes or live with it.  Not yet ready to get a new motorcycle with better led lights since I only have 15000 miles on the 2015 model I bought new in 2016 (at a nice discount)

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Re: Fog light unreliability?
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2019, 12:19:03 PM »
Hence trying an inexpensive new relay first ;-)

 


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