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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #220 on: September 17, 2021, 10:09:21 AM
*Originally Posted by Will Morgan [+]
:0461: I'm sure the Scrambler 1200 engine has potential for a bike to compete with the Africa Twin.

Exactly

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #221 on: September 17, 2021, 11:35:04 AM
*Originally Posted by Will Morgan [+]
I'd hope for a significantly lighter bike with a lower seat height & preferably a 17" or 19" front wheel with a more appealing choice of colours

OK, I admt it, what I really want is a nimbler sports tourer without any off-road potenial or pretences = a replacement for the 1050 Sport with the new 1200 engine.

Otherwise I expect I will shop elsewhere again (last time I got a KTM SDGT), although my Gen 2 is still here & may stay as a winter hack.
Tried the Tiger 850 Sport? Saw one the other day. Price seems right.
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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #222 on: September 17, 2021, 11:44:51 AM
I'd rather take the full power 900GT than the detuned 850, but its still more adventure bike than the sports tourer that I'd like.
I want something more like Kawasaki 1000SX or my current KTM SDGT but with a sublime Triumph triple engine that hasn't got the T-plane firing order.
Yes, I'm fussy but realize Triumph aren't likely to make a one off specifically for me  :745:

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #223 on: September 17, 2021, 11:46:35 AM
*Originally Posted by Triple3 [+]
They didn't do it to make it vibey. They did it to enhance midrange torque and loose surface hookup. Yamaha did something similar when they brought out the Super Tenere.


I Know they would not have wanted it to be vibey but having an uneven firing order and an offset crankshaft was always going to be the case, all for the sake of trying to stop spin up while offroad. Most people I know that rides Tiger 1200s think they have plenty of midrange torque and a smooth sweet sounding engine. Most people I know also use them for touring and long distance run outs and have never ventured off road. It would seem they are being a jack of all trades and master of none. I cannot understand while development of the 900 tiger was going on they did not come to the conclusion that it was not the way to go. They should have developed a new 900 with a 120 degree crank superior to the very vibe free sweet running 800. If not be done with it and make a twin.
In the ADV category Triumph are competing with twins. But triples are what distinguishes them from the competition. The twins are for the retro crowd.

Triumph have been pretty good at managing to use their engines in as many different applications as possible to save money. The TEX motor was really an abberation and was a dead end after the Trophy was killed off. Just keep the one you have if you like it.
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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #224 on: September 17, 2021, 06:25:34 PM
I intend to it is an excellent bike in my opinion and I have had a few. I will still go for a test ride but if the engine sounds and feels like the 900 I test rode I will give it a miss and vote with my wallet. Shame really as I have rode Triumph Triples since 1994 the Triumph Trident Sprint I still have with 70000 mile on it now and still going strong. The early triples were over engineered machines.

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #225 on: September 18, 2021, 07:28:22 PM
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and I would bet they removed even MORE fuel capacity :230:!

From what a dealer told me there will be a 30L tank option but going on 900 model names I would guess that would be for a Rally Pro or equivalent. The road biased bike will probably not have that option and stay at 20L like the 900 is
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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #226 on: September 18, 2021, 08:15:28 PM
There will also be for the GT

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #227 on: September 18, 2021, 10:05:35 PM
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There will also be for the GT

That would be a good move.
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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #228 on: September 23, 2021, 05:15:15 PM

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #229 on: September 23, 2021, 06:49:19 PM
Hi All

Has anyone heard any rumours as to whether the new Gen4 will be at the NEC in December? Cheers

Simmo
2019 Tiger 1200 XRT in White fitted with TPMS, Rox Anti-vibration Pivoting Risers, Skidmarx Rear Hugger, Palmer Bar End Weights, Grip Puppies, SW Motech Upper Engine Bars, Panniers and Tool Tube, and Givi Trekker Outback 58L Top Box.

 



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