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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #470 on: November 27, 2021, 10:31:43 AM
*Originally Posted by mjab [+]
Given that this prototype has been shown of around a few shows as basically a teaser and the bike is being "revealed" on the 5th I'd hazard a guess that there will be a lot more on show than just the prototype when they do there stuff on the 5th.
Got the email yesterday from Triumph saying it will be at NEC - but seems like only on a pedestal to gawk at not being able to "try for size" - there is a bookable "VIP experience" to get close up............come on Triumph get a grip we dont want to just look at it............makes me think its not quite finished yet and that T are trying to maximise Tiger 900 sales before proper release of the 1200 (can't blame them for last bit I suppose)
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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #471 on: November 27, 2021, 10:36:11 AM
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I also heard a rumour that there would be adaptive CC. But I couldn't find it anywhere on the pre-production bike and not in the menu of the TFT either.
Why do we need that?  If you are driving in traffic surely you shouldn't be using CC?  Another electronic gizmo that takes responsibility for actions away from the driver/rider and ultimately makes for a worse driver
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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #472 on: November 27, 2021, 10:51:54 AM
Why do we need that?  If you are driving in traffic surely you shouldn't be using CC?  Another electronic gizmo that takes responsibility for actions away from the driver/rider and ultimately makes for a worse driver

I generally agree about the adaptive CC. It has been in cars for a while now and seems to turn their drivers in to robots on motorways, etc., it would certainly explain some of the middle lane road hoggers! During the lockdowns, when we were only allowed to travel for essential reasons and to visit our 'bubbles', I used CC on the motorway / dual-carriageways a lot more than I had previously, as the roads were much quieter. It made a long trek up/down the A1 more like being on auto-pilot while on the bike. Generally I only use CC when the road is quiet, making it adaptive may help make long boring stretches of road pass easier, although I am also uncomfortable with handing more control to the bikes electronics as it does numb the senses, so I would need to test it before making a judgement.

I think Triumph will have it on their bikes at some point simply because the competition now have it (KTM, Ducati and some current BMWs), so it is keeping up with the neighbours really.

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #473 on: November 27, 2021, 10:52:33 AM
*Originally Posted by Chippy4467 [+]
Got the email yesterday from Triumph saying it will be at NEC - but seems like only on a pedestal to gawk at not being able to "try for size" - there is a bookable "VIP experience" to get close up............come on Triumph get a grip we dont want to just look at it............makes me think its not quite finished yet and that T are trying to maximise Tiger 900 sales before proper release of the 1200 (can't blame them for last bit I suppose)

There's a serious shortage on T900 and dealers don't even get the numbers they ordered for next year. So I doubt that they are holding back the 1200 for that reason.

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #474 on: November 27, 2021, 10:56:19 AM
*Originally Posted by Chippy4467 [+]
Why do we need that?  If you are driving in traffic surely you shouldn't be using CC?  Another electronic gizmo that takes responsibility for actions away from the driver/rider and ultimately makes for a worse driver

On my car the Adaptive CC is a delight. On a motorcycle I don't really need it.
But if Triumph wants to keep up with the competition they will need to add it to there motors. And what would be worse is when they don't add stuff like that but they make the bike just as expensive as the competition.

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #475 on: November 27, 2021, 11:20:24 AM
Nah, we don't need adaptive cruise, we don't need cruise control, we don't need traction control, we don't need ABS, we don't need linked brakes, we don't need quickshift, we don't need GPS, we don't need automatic choke, we don't need automatic spark advance, we don't need disk brakes, we don't need......
How far back into history do you want to go?

I'd say what we think we need is influenced by where we ride, and what we've experienced.
I love adaptive cruise in my car, and would love to have it on the bike.  In the car, it almost guarantees I won't run into anything or anyone.  I use it even in the suburbs at relatively slow speeds.
On the highway it reduces my frustration when the guy in front keeps varying speed.
As well as a quick ride through the twisties on weekends, I do long distance touring, often two-up.  I'll take all the safety and convenience features I can get.
Anything that makes it easier, also reduces fatigue, allowing one to ride further, safer.
I for one will be disappointed if the new Tiger doesn't offer adaptive cruise.  And Android phone hookup would be very welcome, since vehicle manufacturers of all breeds stuff up built-in GPS compared to Google maps.

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #476 on: November 27, 2021, 11:38:38 AM
Ken - UK is so congested now I use CC only on quiet roads - you need eyes in the back of your head with people undertaking and pretty aweful spatial awareness - will be such an
Own goal for Triumph if we can’t get a close up look at a road 1200 at the bike show in a week or so - Ducati are falling over themselves with the new 950 V2
Tiffen - splendid idea - in the lunge

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #477 on: November 27, 2021, 12:10:32 PM
*Originally Posted by Chippy4467 [+]
Got the email yesterday from Triumph saying it will be at NEC - but seems like only on a pedestal to gawk at not being able to "try for size" - there is a bookable "VIP experience" to get close up............come on Triumph get a grip we dont want to just look at it........

Got this in my email from Triumph....
From Saturday 4th December, we'll have the prototype on display, and then you can see and sit on the new Tiger 1200 range from Tuesday at noon.
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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #478 on: November 27, 2021, 12:29:07 PM
*Originally Posted by KenW [+]
Nah, we don't need adaptive cruise, we don't need cruise control, we don't need traction control, we don't need ABS, we don't need linked brakes, we don't need quickshift, we don't need GPS, we don't need automatic choke, we don't need automatic spark advance, we don't need disk brakes, we don't need......
How far back into history do you want to go?

I'd say what we think we need is influenced by where we ride, and what we've experienced.
I love adaptive cruise in my car, and would love to have it on the bike.  In the car, it almost guarantees I won't run into anything or anyone.  I use it even in the suburbs at relatively slow speeds.
On the highway it reduces my frustration when the guy in front keeps varying speed.
As well as a quick ride through the twisties on weekends, I do long distance touring, often two-up.  I'll take all the safety and convenience features I can get.
Anything that makes it easier, also reduces fatigue, allowing one to ride further, safer.
I for one will be disappointed if the new Tiger doesn't offer adaptive cruise.  And Android phone hookup would be very welcome, since vehicle manufacturers of all breeds stuff up built-in GPS compared to Google maps.

 Very good point.

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Re: New Generation 4 Tiger 1200
Reply #479 on: November 27, 2021, 01:31:43 PM
*Originally Posted by T800XC [+]
Got this in my email from Triumph....

You are obviously higher up the customer tree than me 🤣
Tiffen - splendid idea - in the lunge

 



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