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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2020, 03:43:02 PM »
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]
So you are deadly serious about getting the XRx Low with Quickshifter if you had your time over again!?!

Yes, 100%. You are getting a drop of 50mm over standard I think it is, I wouldn't hesitate to go low. Those new special editions don't have a low option unfortunately.

Good man. I'll take it as read then, that the 20mm lowering plus the seat on its lowest position just isn't low enough. Have you tried that set up but with the LOW seat?

Just three other things, please:
Does the low version have the standard or low seat ?Does the Quickshifter, as an extra, work Up and Down the box
....and finally does the Low have the clutch assist?
I believe the aux lights would be extra also.
« Last Edit: March 17, 2020, 03:54:30 PM by knapdog »
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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2020, 03:54:33 PM »
*Originally Posted by Benchmark [+]
My dealer told me this week given the new models already released don't expect the Gen4 until next year some time in his opinion.

 :0461:  I anticipate the Gen 4 to follow the usual pattern = shown at EICMA, INTERMOT, NEC etc in autumn 2020, then press launches/test rides in New Year, with bikes for sale in dealers spring/early summer 2021.

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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2020, 02:48:28 PM »
2018 Tiger 1200 XCa owner here and I'm 5' 8" 29" inseam. I used Soupy's Lowering Links about 1.5" and using a Heated Low Seat and the bike fits me fine with no issues. Not exactly flat footed, but close enough and more like my 2008 Stratoliner, not flat footed either, but close enough for my liking.

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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2020, 03:19:42 PM »
*Originally Posted by jbkrab [+]
2018 Tiger 1200 XCa owner here and I'm 5' 8" 29" inseam. I used Soupy's Lowering Links about 1.5" and using a Heated Low Seat and the bike fits me fine with no issues. Not exactly flat footed, but close enough and more like my 2008 Stratoliner, not flat footed either, but close enough for my liking.

We could probably start a brand new thread on "being flat footed".
I was on the balls of my feet with my Tiger 800 and dropped it. I'd ridden down a pal's drive such that the rear wheel was on his down sloping drive and my front wheel was on the up sloping road forming a "V" in the middle below the pegs.
I had to stop due to a car passing, put my foot down and the ground wasn't there. Over I went. The bike was remarkably free of marks, just a couple.
On the balls of my feet was fine for 99% of my riding but it's the 1% that would come back to bite me.
Drains, holes, cambers, tight hairpins, uneven slopes, gravel, going on and coming off ferries etc, they can get you.
Personally, I would never buy another bike unless I was totally flat footed on it, particularly if the bike was a bit top heavy.
I never use to be worried about tippy toeing at one time because going back and fore to work and my weekend rides were a doddle.
Once I'd started to tour Europe with luggage and all the additional weight, negotiating wet cobbled streets, tight mountain hairpins etc, a low riding position was a godsend.
For me that's what the XRx could well do.
Hmm.
I wonder if they'll bring out a XRt low ever.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2020, 03:21:44 PM by knapdog »
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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2020, 03:40:47 PM »
*Originally Posted by knapdog [+]
We could probably start a brand new thread on "being flat footed".
I was on the balls of my feet with my Tiger 800 and dropped it. I'd ridden down a pal's drive such that the rear wheel was on his down sloping drive and my front wheel was on the up sloping road forming a "V" in the middle below the pegs.
I had to stop due to a car passing, put my foot down and the ground wasn't there. Over I went. The bike was remarkably free of marks, just a couple.
On the balls of my feet was fine for 99% of my riding but it's the 1% that would come back to bite me.
Drains, holes, cambers, tight hairpins, uneven slopes, gravel, going on and coming off ferries etc, they can get you.
Personally, I would never buy another bike unless I was totally flat footed on it, particularly if the bike was a bit top heavy.
I never use to be worried about tippy toeing at one time because going back and fore to work and my weekend rides were a doddle.
Once I'd started to tour Europe with luggage and all the additional weight, negotiating wet cobbled streets, tight mountain hairpins etc, a low riding position was a godsend.
For me that's what the XRx could well do.
Hmm.
I wonder if they'll bring out a XRt low ever.

I know that feeling only too well, stop at a off camber intersection and nothing under my feet, over I go. Even if I were flat footed it would still happen. I will tell you that I will always let the bike fall. I tore up my left knee once trying to save one of my bikes in a stopped fall. Never again. Let it fall. Bike can be fixed a lot cheaper then having to go through medical treatment.
 

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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2020, 09:10:06 PM »
*Originally Posted by knapdog [+]
Good man. I'll take it as read then, that the 20mm lowering plus the seat on its lowest position just isn't low enough. Have you tried that set up but with the LOW seat? The regular seat in the low position is quite good but didn't suit me as I lost the seat to peg ratio which lost a lot of comfort for me.

Just three other things, please:
Does the low version have the standard or low seat ? Not sure on that point Does the Quickshifter, as an extra, work Up and Down the box it does with an auto-blipper on downshift, it is very good and quite subtle.
....and finally does the Low have the clutch assist? The clutch is unchanged on the std and low models. It is a very late bite on the clutch on all which is quite universally disliked.
I believe the aux lights would be extra also. They would, as a number of other items.

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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #16 on: March 22, 2020, 10:54:05 PM »
*Originally Posted by knapdog [+]
Good man. I'll take it as read then, that the 20mm lowering plus the seat on its lowest position just isn't low enough. Have you tried that set up but with the LOW seat?

Just three other things, please:
Does the low version have the standard or low seat ?Does the Quickshifter, as an extra, work Up and Down the box
....and finally does the Low have the clutch assist?
I believe the aux lights would be extra also.

If the Gen-3 XRX-Low is the same as my Gen-2 XRX-Low (which I believe it is) then yes it will come with the "Low" seat as standard. Can't answer your other questions as I have a Gen-2 Low.

In one of your later threads you ask about an XRT-Low - I've asked Triumph about that and told quite simply No and never will be.

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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2020, 07:54:04 AM »
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]

Just out of interest the new 900 Rally has a higher seat again over the T12, yikes!

I jumped off my 1200 XCA and onto the 900 Rally Pro last week for a direct comparison. The 900 does have a higher seat but it is narrower and the suspension softer so I could actually get more* of my foot on the ground

*Disclaimer at 5'6" I have never really been flat footed but I have ridden a large range of adventure bikes (standard height models) and the only one that was too much was the KTM1200. I could find a ladder to get on that one
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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2020, 05:42:22 PM »
*Originally Posted by Gwilym [+]
I jumped off my 1200 XCA and onto the 900 Rally Pro last week for a direct comparison. The 900 does have a higher seat but it is narrower and the suspension softer so I could actually get more* of my foot on the ground
Be careful of dealer demo bikes. It seems common for them to have the rear preload set quite low to make them seem more accessible. I would be keen to try out the bike at max and min rear preload, it takes just a few seconds to do, even on the showroom floor.

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Re: Tiger 1200 height options
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2020, 06:11:49 PM »
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]
Be careful of dealer demo bikes. It seems common for them to have the rear preload set quite low to make them seem more accessible. I would be keen to try out the bike at max and min rear preload, it takes just a few seconds to do, even on the showroom floor.

Great advice.
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