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Risers...to be or not to be
on: July 07, 2020, 09:09:46 PM
Hey everyone, in my quest to conquer dirt on the big bike I hear and read different takes/opinions on "risers". I am in my infancy when it comes to offroading on an ADV bike and I have no idea what the advantages or disadvantages are to having or not having risers. Does adding risers to the bike negatively affect the handling characteristics of the bike when in the dirt? Is it "less" controllable? I have heard that they should be removed if riding an ADV bike offroad because they prevent the rider from standing in the correct position, they get in the way. How true is that statement?

I'm full of offroad questions...I like challenges and this has been one of my toughest challenges that I can remember. I was skittish on dirty but have been practicing the small stuff (working on balance and counter-balancing and getting comfortable sliding the rear-end around and using rear brake/throttle input to help change direction by sliding the rear wheel around) so now I am definitely more confident on the hard stuff. My biggest culprit is tension...it is really difficult to stay relaxed when that bike is moving all over the place underneath me, ESPECIALLY IN SAND! Sand and water/muddy crossings are my weakness and I have a really difficult time drumming up any confidence when faced with having to cross sand or water. I have crashed several times on my Tiger, all of them in sand or water/muddy crossings. I am determined to become a good offroad rider on my Tiger but thought I would ask some of those "burning" questions and "risers or no risers" was one of those questions. Thanks!
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Re: Risers...to be or not to be
Reply #1 on: July 07, 2020, 09:18:11 PM
Depending on your height, risers make it easier and more comfortable to stand while off-roading. Simple as that. I have Rox 2" risers on my TEX. Have had them for 6 years. I like them. They work for me.
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Re: Risers...to be or not to be
Reply #2 on: July 07, 2020, 09:22:09 PM
If you don't mind my asking, how tall are you?
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Re: Risers...to be or not to be
Reply #3 on: July 07, 2020, 10:25:24 PM
The risers are to bring the bars closer to you as you stand up off-road to save you hunching too much. But everyones rider stance preference can be different, It is an individual thing and you may find stock suits you just fine. Capt'n has an earlier model and lots of folk added risers to those just for road use to improve the ergonomics. I have a 2018 Gen 3 the same as you which have a much improved bar position and many Gen 3 owners seem to think these are fine as is. I did add SW-Motech 20mm risers which in reality are just spacers. This was not for off-road riding though, it just eased the pull on my shoulder blades in normal riding with my short arms. I don't think there are too many using a full on 40-50mm risers on the Gen 3 and I didn't find lots of spare cable to lift them much more than the 20mm either.

Why not find a local off-road riding skills course and get it from an expert on techniques and stance? Hats off to you for pushing your off-road skills on the Tiger, this thing of mine see's a badly made road and that's about it.  :047:

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Re: Risers...to be or not to be
Reply #4 on: July 07, 2020, 11:40:11 PM
Thanks, XCaTel! The report I read on risers vs. no risers made reference to the newer generation bikes being better set up for offroad so no need for the risers. I watched MotoTrek and he said the first thing he does is remove risers when students show up for his courses. Glad that was all cleared up!
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Re: Risers...to be or not to be
Reply #5 on: July 08, 2020, 03:04:01 AM
*Originally Posted by mike2411 [+]
If you don't mind my asking, how tall are you?
5' 9"
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Re: Risers...to be or not to be
Reply #6 on: July 08, 2020, 03:49:33 AM
Like Capt. mentioned, the risers make it easier to stand & ride. :028: I've had them on several bikes over the years & have never noticed a difference in handling characteristics. I've got a Gen 1 with 2" ROX risers and have oversized foot pegs that are 2" lower than the OE pegs. At 67 I don't do nearly as much off road riding as I used to, but still like to stand on rough, loose gravel. At those time I wish I had 6" risers... BTW, I'm 6'4". :821:
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Re: Risers...to be or not to be
Reply #7 on: July 08, 2020, 08:29:09 AM
*Originally Posted by mike2411 [+]
I watched MotoTrek and he said the first thing he does is remove risers when students show up for his courses.

A lot of what he does makes sense but......
He sets bikes up for off-road with little compromise for a mix of riding on and off road. Thats fine if you are OK with stopping & re-setting the ergos for which ever your doing, but its a PITA if you're doing a mixed route.
And he says a bike should be set up for the individual. So if it takes risers to get it right for you I'd not hesitate to fit them. I know if I rotate the bars as he recommends for standing up off road I can't reach full lock sitting down on road = I'm too short / my arms are too short.
On / off road ergos have to be a compromise = do whatever works for you.

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Re: Risers...to be or not to be
Reply #8 on: July 08, 2020, 04:37:55 PM
I do off road on this bike - did it on all generations I believe. I always put risers on them handlebars, and I also tilt them upwards so that I can use to the controls without bending my wrist too much. I am 5' 11"

On the first gen I managed to stack two risers even - boy was that bike fun to ride on the trails and whatnot.

With the current one all I could get is the Rox risers.

20190810_112939 by I.C., on Flickr

If you like standing up, get the risers.

Let me know if you have more off-road oriented questions...


I'm glad you are pushing yourself and the bike to its limits - I wouldn't have it any other way. Ride-on brother!

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Re: Risers...to be or not to be
Reply #9 on: July 09, 2020, 08:45:25 PM
Icy,

What risers do you have?
I have the Rox-risers and not complete happy with them.