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Re: Where have they snuck this one from
Reply #10 on: November 11, 2020, 05:32:48 PM
There it is for you Will, they are making three bikes out of that platform. There is an "Adventure" version and a "Sport" version as well as the Trident roadster.

Yeah, that's how it was reported in the Asian press (and Bennetts who copied it) when that dealer conference image first surfaced, but personally I think it's been misinterpreted. Could be wrong but I believe it really shows the Tiger 900, the Trident, and the 850 as per the OP's first post. Not really the same platform but time will tell, we'll see !  :001:

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Re: Where have they snuck this one from
Reply #11 on: November 11, 2020, 05:56:47 PM
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]
There it is for you Will, they are making three bikes out of that platform. There is an "Adventure" version and a "Sport" version as well as the Trident roadster.
A similar image was posted over at the Tiger Sport / 1050 forum in October 2018, see here...
https://www.tiger1050.com/index.php/topic,39419.msg436911.html#msg436911



*Originally Posted by Admin [+]
...I think it's been misinterpreted. Could be wrong but I believe it really shows the Tiger 900, the Trident, and the 850 as per the OP's first post. Not really the same platform but time will tell, we'll see !  :001:
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Re: Where have they snuck this one from
Reply #12 on: November 11, 2020, 06:39:07 PM
I think this is a cheaper and even more road oriented version on the Tiger 900GT line. As they're giving the engine an 850 rather than 900 billing, for what is a similar 888cc capacity lump and also calling it 'sport' it might just have an 120 degree crank rather than the t-plane one to make it even more road focused. If so, it could attract those buyers that liked the rest of the 900 package but have been put off by the engine characteristics... another market niche plugged? :002:

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Re: Where have they snuck this one from
Reply #13 on: November 11, 2020, 07:50:02 PM
*Originally Posted by Chippy4467 [+]
Is this the "new" 1050 sport?

Hardly with an 850cc engine  :164: :164:
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Re: Where have they snuck this one from
Reply #14 on: November 12, 2020, 12:58:46 PM
*Originally Posted by Admin [+]
Yeah, that's how it was reported in the Asian press (and Bennetts who copied it) when that dealer conference image first surfaced, but personally I think it's been misinterpreted. Could be wrong but I believe it really shows the Tiger 900, the Trident, and the 850 as per the OP's first post. Not really the same platform but time will tell, we'll see !  :001:
Yes, you could be right there. I had thought they missed a marketing trick by not making the Tiger 900 GT range a "classic" 120 Deg crank and the Rally version the offset jobby. Perhaps that's what the 850 version is for then, a classic 120 deg crank triple? Jeez, Triumph are churning them out! You have to wonder what place is left for the poor old 1050 engine and its two long standing bikes, the Sport and Speed Triple.

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Re: Where have they snuck this one from
Reply #15 on: November 12, 2020, 02:02:29 PM
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]
You have to wonder what place is left for the poor old 1050 engine and its two long standing bikes, the Sport and Speed Triple.

There's plenty of internet rumours of a new bigger capacity engine to meet latest emissions and for the Speed Triple to catch up with its competitors performance

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Re: Where have they snuck this one from
Reply #16 on: November 12, 2020, 07:21:52 PM
*Originally Posted by XCaTel [+]
  You have to wonder what place is left for the poor old 1050 engine and its two long standing bikes, the Sport and Speed Triple.

I thought this engine didn't meet the latest euro standards so had to go
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Re: Where have they snuck this one from
Reply #17 on: November 13, 2020, 09:22:04 AM
s this the "new" 1050 sport?

Hardly with an 850cc engine  :164: :164:

I was meaning the replacement for it.  Yes its a smaller lump but the 1050 whilst having some loyal following is not selling well (never has really) and is I believe due to be withdrawn
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Re: Where have they snuck this one from
Reply #19 on: November 17, 2020, 12:48:31 PM
What a very strange bike to release? It is virtually identical to the entry level Tiger 900 but they have just traded some peak power (10HP) to get the peak torque 750 RPM lower down the rev range, but also 5Nm less, for a saving of £200 over the entry level 900. I don't see the point at all? It is such a marginal change, virtually everything else is the same as the 900. Will this end up being the new "marginalised" SPORT in the Tigers range, to take the mantle from the poor 1050 Sport? Do you get the feeling the entry level 900 might just fade away altogether?
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