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Offline Madmanmike

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I mean, the owners manual says when in the off position, the bike can’t be started. Hmmmm. Ok. Also, if I don’t press the start button, the bike can’t be started.

So what action does the switch actually perform, if any? I mean, does anyone ever turn it to off, and if so, why?

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Re: Stupid question? Master Ignition Switch. What good is it?
Reply #1 on: July 27, 2021, 10:48:42 PM
*Originally Posted by Madmanmike [+]
So what action does the switch actually perform, if any?

It seems to me it's only action is to comply with N.American regulations  :745:

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Re: Stupid question? Master Ignition Switch. What good is it?
Reply #2 on: July 27, 2021, 10:52:50 PM
Yeah, it’s weird. I’ve had a few cars with keyless ignition and none had a master ignition switch. So I guess it’s a motorcycle only requirement.

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Re: Stupid question? Master Ignition Switch. What good is it?
Reply #3 on: July 28, 2021, 12:00:50 AM
It is not on European bikes and seems to be a NA requirement.

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Re: Stupid question? Master Ignition Switch. What good is it?
Reply #4 on: July 28, 2021, 09:07:24 AM
Next new invention will be a lock & key for it........................... :008:
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Re: Stupid question? Master Ignition Switch. What good is it?
Reply #5 on: July 28, 2021, 11:26:11 AM
*Originally Posted by Chippy4467 [+]
Next new invention will be a lock & key for it........................... :008:
Heh. Yeah. You joke, but at least that would give it some purpose. You could actually physically lock the ignition. As it stands now, it has no reason to exist other than fulfilling some vague government requirement.

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Re: Stupid question? Master Ignition Switch. What good is it?
Reply #6 on: July 28, 2021, 02:54:13 PM
*Originally Posted by Madmanmike [+]
...So what action does the switch actually perform, if any? I mean, does anyone ever turn it to off, and if so, why?...
It's simply in series with the main ignition switch so would seem to have exactly the same effect as using the main switch. I can't find any informatiion on the US requirement for the extra switch, so probably made up by a non-biker in a suit!
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Re: Stupid question? Master Ignition Switch. What good is it?
Reply #7 on: July 28, 2021, 03:56:29 PM
It is a US requirement per law.  The idea behind the requirement was to have a readily accessible "kill switch" that could be easily found by onlookers/emergency workers in case of an accident wherein the motorcyclist was incapacitated or separated from a running motorcycle. Maybe even have a "shut off" switch readily accessible to motorcyclists during an era when the keyed ignition switch could be located in all kinds of odd locations.  (They weren't always near the steering head.)

I don't have a keyless motorcycle.  I have two keyless cars.  I have never tested absolute range, but I do know that I can get out of either car, walk some distance away, and the cars continue to run.  So I can see the logic of having an emergency "off" switch, even if you do have keyless ignition.  (Rider down in ditch, bike up on road, running?)

How often such a switch is really necessary is separate issue, of course.  I have no idea what the number of "justifying" real-world instances is.

As for using it ...  my first bike, a 1973 Suz, had a "kill switch" separate from the key ignition, so I sort of grew up with them.  And I pretty much always use the kill switch to shut down.   Just me, I guess.   
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Re: Stupid question? Master Ignition Switch. What good is it?
Reply #8 on: July 28, 2021, 04:40:18 PM
Doesn't a keyless Tiger have a kill switch/start button combo on the handlebars (to satisfy US law, which I'm pretty sure mandates it being on the right handlebar)?
So this would be a secondary & legally unnecessary master kill switch. How odd
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Re: Stupid question? Master Ignition Switch. What good is it?
Reply #9 on: July 28, 2021, 05:11:43 PM
*Originally Posted by Speed_Racer [+]
Doesn't a keyless Tiger have a kill switch/start button combo on the handlebars (to satisfy US law, which I'm pretty sure mandates it being on the right handlebar)?
So this would be a secondary & legally unnecessary master kill switch. How odd
Exactly. The main ignition switch is also bright red making it hard to miss compared to the master switch which blends in with the cockpit surround.
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