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Title: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: salisburytiger on April 07, 2019, 07:13:04 PM
Hi, I've been trying to find which MRA VSA spoiler to buy for my Tiger.
There are three : A, B & C and I can't seem to get an clear answer from MRA.
Can anyone help me out please?
Thanks
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: NiK on April 08, 2019, 09:24:50 AM
Considering the unusual shape of the XRt's screen, I'd be interested to know the answer also!
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: XCaTel on April 08, 2019, 09:38:02 AM
Given the narrow shape of the XRt and XCa touring screen I imagine the only spoiler that won't look odd is the sport version, the touring ones are all too wide. It seems to come with the XCC clamps for the top ridge of the screen so trying it out will require no screen drilling and no loss if it doesn't work, apart from financial of course. Stick a pic up if you take the plunge.
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: NiK on April 08, 2019, 03:47:10 PM
My concern wouldn't be the look (or I'd be riding an Italian motorcycle ;-).
The XRt Touring Screen is somewhat "split/folded" in the middle and I don't know how such a system would adapt without stressing said screen too much...
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: salisburytiger on April 08, 2019, 04:01:38 PM
Thanks XCaTel - that's very helpful.
I'll get the tape measure out and have a think...
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: Hawkeye on June 08, 2019, 09:35:14 AM
*Originally Posted by salisburytiger [+]
Hi, I've been trying to find which MRA VSA spoiler to buy for my Tiger.
There are three : A, B & C and I can't seem to get an clear answer from MRA.
Can anyone help me out please?
Thanks

I've just been looking at this as well as I have the touring screen on my 2016 XRX, and couldn't decide between the A, B or C screen.
Contacted HPS yesterday for advice, especially given the curvature of the screen, and they advise that all the spoilers can cope with the curvature of the screen as the point at which the clamps (or drilling pieces) attach at the bottom of the hinges can rotate.

They also advise that the thing that is fixed is the width between the hinges. I sent them a diagram of the outline of the top of my screen and they said that looking at the dimensions any of the VSA spoilers would fit as the largest requirement is 220mm for a type B.

Give the screen is 280mm wide across the topfor me the dilemma is whether to do for the Type A or Type C. I've discounted the Type B as I think it would be too wide. Dimensions of each are:

Type A: Width of spoiler 300mm, Height 105mm
Type B: Width of spoiler 330mm, Height 105mm
Type C: Width of spoiler 310mm, Height 90mm

I'm kind of coming down on the side of a Type A, as it will only be 10mm wider each side of the top of the screen. I'm torn though as I prefer the Height of the Type C (shame they don't do one that is 300mm wide and 90mm high, I'd be happy then)

What one did you go for salisburytiger in the end - and if so how are you finding it?
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: salisburytiger on June 08, 2019, 10:54:13 AM
I emailed MRA and was told that their screen does not fit the gen 3 Tiger.
In the end I bought the Puig screen with visor for c£120 from M&P motorcycles.
It looks great and does a great job.
There is a design issue with the angle adjustment on the visor which resulted in me needing a new bracket because it is so tight that the metal plates inside break when moving the angle.
Having said that if you remove the ball bearings and just set the angle it seems fine.
I'm very happy with it.
Hope that helps!
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: Simmo on June 08, 2019, 10:54:38 AM
Seems to me that the MRA 'wings' cost between £60 and £80 plus you've got to cleanly and accurately drill your OEM screen!

I went down the route of the Puig 8916H which comes complete with Wing and is pre-drilled plus its not a lot more costly at £105. The other advantage is that you can then set your bike back to standard if needed.

Simmo
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: salisburytiger on June 08, 2019, 11:00:36 AM
That's the one I bought, very happy customer
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: Hawkeye on June 08, 2019, 11:26:38 AM
*Originally Posted by Simmo [+]
Seems to me that the MRA 'wings' cost between £60 and £80 plus you've got to cleanly and accurately drill your OEM screen!

I went down the route of the Puig 8916H which comes complete with Wing and is pre-drilled plus its not a lot more costly at £105. The other advantage is that you can then set your bike back to standard if needed.

Simmo

According to HPS you have the option of clamps to the top of your screen or bolting it to same - although I agree with you, cleanly and accurately drilling your screen could well be an issue - so I'd be looking to clamp. Here's the auction I'm looking at.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MRA-Vario-Touring-VSA-Type-A-Universal-Adjustable-Spoiler-with-Clamps-CLEAR/323804248897?epid=4018195929&hash=item4b643cbb41:g:f4oAAOSw5FJa1znj&frcectupt=true

But as you say and salisburytiger says also, the Puig does sound like a good option.

I think what I might do is try the MSA Vario-Touring VSA Type A spoiler first to see if it will fit my Gen-2 screen or not; HPS have a 30 day return policy and I think once I offer it up, it will be pretty clear whether it will fit or foul the top of the screen. If it does foul then teh Puig route seems a very good option.

Thanks for your feedback, very much appreciated
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: NiK on June 11, 2019, 09:08:39 AM
Gents, reading your successive posts got me a bit confused now. I thought the Mk2 and Mk3 Triumph touring were the same. Did I misunderstood something?
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: Hawkeye on June 11, 2019, 09:16:22 AM
*Originally Posted by NiK [+]
Gents, reading your successive posts got me a bit confused now. I thought the Mk2 and Mk3 Triumph touring were the same. Did I misunderstood something?

I don't know the answer to that Nik, as I haven't looked much at the Tiger 1200's, but given they share the same electric screen, my assumption was that the screens on both the Gen-2 and 3's were the same.

Anyway - I've now ordered the MRA Vario VSA Type C screen - decided after looking at the XRT touring screen I have on my XRX that that would probably be the better option than the A version, so just awaiting it arriving. We'll see then whether it does fits or not as there were conflicting views from the manufacturer and UK distributor!

Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: NiK on June 11, 2019, 11:35:22 AM
Can't wait your report (complete with pics of course ;-)!
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: Hawkeye on June 11, 2019, 03:38:34 PM
So not long after posting earlier today, my MRA Vario VSA Type C screen was delivered! Impressive bit of kit, comes with clamps for the top of the screen or, if you want to bolt it to the screen, a screen bolt kit - and more importantly - a sticky template so you can get those drilled holes spot on! Anyway, I've decided to give it a go with the clamps at first to see how I get on with it, I may possibly bolt it on to the screen later on, we'll see.

Dead easy to fit and actually doesn't look out of place, adds that little extra bit of height I was looking for. Easily curves around the centre diagonal of the screen with room to spare. The attached screen shots are with the vario screen set on the middle setting (there are 7 settings) and the Triumph screen fully up. I had debated whether to go for the "A" or "C" screen, but having fitted the "C" I think that was the right choice.

Comments invited!
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: CaptainTrips on June 11, 2019, 09:59:01 PM
I've got an older MRA blade on mine. They seem to have changed the mounting hardware quite a bit. You can't set the angle of attack anymore? Just raise it up and down? Mine has a single arm on each side with a single mount point.
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: Hawkeye on June 11, 2019, 10:48:01 PM
*Originally Posted by CaptainTrips [+]
I've got an older MRA blade on mine. They seem to have changed the mounting hardware quite a bit. You can't set the angle of attack anymore? Just raise it up and down? Mine has a single arm on each side with a single mount point.

I'll agree there is not as much adjustment as I thought - essentially you have 7 adjustment options, as you click the screen up or down, so the angle changes with each click (the lower it is the further out at the bottom), but it's not a great angle range. Assuming I keep it on and I bolt it to teh screen, I'll probably lower it a little than what it is at present by about 2cm.

But getting back to adjustment - the height determines the angle, having opted for a height then you can't adjust the angle.
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: CaptainTrips on June 12, 2019, 02:22:39 AM
The old setup allows you to set the height and angle separately, but as you reduce the height, the gap narrows.

Tuning tip: tape a few bits of wool about 3 inches long to the top edge of the plexi. Adjust the screen until the tell-tales are standing straight up as you ride (not thashing) and then you have perfect air flow.
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: NiK on June 12, 2019, 08:58:19 AM
Thanks Hawkeye!
Now for the ride report ;-)
Title: Re: Which MRA VSA spoiler for 2018 XRt?
Post by: Hawkeye on June 12, 2019, 11:48:36 AM
*Originally Posted by NiK [+]
Thanks Hawkeye!
Now for the ride report ;-)

I'll let you know after the weekend Nik, as off down to the Prescott Hill Climb so will get a good chance to try it out on the ride from the East to West of the UK!

@CaptainTrips - appreciate that wool idea - brilliant - so will def be trying that out!!! Thank you!